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|Questions Tommi Hakonen / answered by Kartzu|
FLAUROS, BLACK METAL BAND, FORMED IN 1996... JUST ANOTHER TRENDY SHIT, FORMED BY THE KIDS WHO HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT REAL BLACK METAL! DO YOU AGREE?
-Absolutely! By the way... what is "real" black-metal. Is it something that only people from early days of BM can do? I think not... Another thing that's strange is that some bands claim to do music just for themselves and still they have bottomless need to be "real" in the eyes of others. I have no need to be valid about something I do. People can think about FLAUROS what ever they like, I really don't care. I think I know what I can, and can't do and that's enough for me.
BIOGRAPHY TELLS THAT THE IDEA ABOUT FORMING A BLACK METAL BAND HAD BEEN IN YOUR MIND FOR A LONG TIME, REALLY? I MEAN, YOU AND KARTZU ARE GOING TO THE ARMY IN SUMMER'98, AND THEREFORE I THINK YOU ARE STILL QUITE YOUNG, SO DID YOU GET THIS IDEA WHILE YOU WERE IN THE KINDERGARDEN?
-Well, you are quite right. If I had the chance to rewrite that bio I don't think that there would be any "excuses" about band's age, though I didn't write it down that someone could think "Well they are young band, but hey... the idea was born long time ago", absolutely not! Maybe it was just long time for me because I did not know other guys back then and forming the band was not possible.
"THE MYTH..." DEMO'97 WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO BE RECORDED WITH A FOUR- TRACKER, WHY DID YOU FAIL WITH IT? AT LEAST THE FINAL RESULT WITH STUDIO-SOUNDS IS VERY GOOD, IT SOUNDS AND LOOKS PROFESSIONAL... SOMEHOW IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE SUCH A PROFESSIONAL, COLOURED COVER AND FOUR-TRACKER RECORDING TOGETHER ...EVEN IF THERE'RE A LOT OF FOUR-TRACKER RECORDINGS ON CD THESE DAYS, EH.
-How in hell someone cannot fail with 4-tracker, it is impossible to have something you wouldn't regret afterwards. Luckily we found this solution before releasing the demo. I am not saying that sounds makes the music, but I personally don't have interest to listen to anything that sounds shit even if the demo itself would be fine. Yes, it's quite hard to imagine such covers and shitty 4-tracker sounds together, though it's happened more than once! Very often bands advertise their tape as an professional release and the lay-out is fucking great, but that's really all there is. Sounds in "The Myth..." demo are great, we are very pleased with 'em and with the whole demo, of course.
BLACK METAL IS THE DESCRIPTION OF YOUR MUSIC, BUT I THINK IT DIFFERS FROM THE COMMON NORTHERN SOUND QUITE MUCH. AT LEAST YOU DON'T JUST IMITATE MAYHEM OR IMMORTAL, BUT YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME "OWN" IDEAS WHAT THE MUSIC SHOULD SOUND, WHERE THOSE IDEAS ARE TAKEN FROM?
-It's great that you don't consider us as a common BM band, though we do not desperately try to be an original and by this destroy all ideas that would come naturally, it just comes way it is. About musical influences... well, me and Teemu are the main songwriters and mostly mix each other ideas to own songs. Teemu is more like traditional heavy- and I more like a BM-listener, so I guess this has something to do with it. But like I said, we don't try to make music in any "categories" nor try to force out creativity into something completely new direction. Like the most, we make music to ourselves and if someone else finds it interesting, it's positive.
LIKE SOME OTHER FINNISH BLACK METAL BANDS, YOU HAVE SOME LYRICS IN FINNISH, WHY? IS IT SOME KIND OF MYSTIQUE-STUNT BECAUSE THOSE WORDS CAN'T BE UNDERSTOOD OUTSIDE OUR COUNTRY? WHY DON'T YOU WRITE LYRICS IN NORWEGIAN, THERE MUST BE A FEW THOUSAND KIDS WHO ARE STUDYING NORWEGIAN IN SCHOOL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR IDOLS ARE SHOUTING?
-First we thought to name our demo to "Vinternatt i en troll skogen og mork dimension svart". No, not anything like that. The song "Herra ja Vapahtaja" is basicly about turning the back on the morality that is the basis of christian community and by this creating the own being and building the own individual ideology. It's hard to explain why it is in Finnish or exactly the lyrics, because they are more like "visions" and thoughts in words. I just wrote it in Finnish and I liked it in that way. It really has nothing to do with the fact that some others does the same.
"HERRA JA VAPAHTAJA" DOES CONTAIN A PART OF THE LORD'S PRAYER IN DIVERSE VERSION, AND I THINK IT SOUNDS FUCKING EXCELLENT, IT'S JUST A PITY THAT THE SONG IS SUNG IN FINNISH SO FOREIGN MANIACS CAN NOT GET THE POINT. ARE YOU GOING TO DO SUCH LYRICS ALSO IN THE FUTURE?
-If the song was in English, I don't think that Finnish listeners, or even you would have shown such an interest about that part. I mean, that part about Lord's prayer would not sound so blasphemic in English, it would just pass with the music, but now it really arouse people's attention to listen to the song over and over again (I agree -ed.). By the way, that part of Lord's prayer was written about a week before studio. I am pleased that I wrote it because it does sound fucking great! Another thing worth of mention is the last sentence; "Kanna ristisi". I was singing the last song in studio and that wasn't planned at all. The song was almost over when I just screamed it... Kanna ristisi! We might use something like it in the future too, time will show.
THE SECOND DEMO IS PLANNED TO BE RECORDED IN SUMMER'98, AND SOME NEW SONGS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE. ANY CHANGES COMPARED WITH THE DEBUT?
-New material is, of course, better than last by many ways. I have written most of it, and new songs are something like mixture of "The Myth...", "Rider" and especially "Herra ja Vapahtaja" from this first demo. Who likes "The Myth..." demo will like the next, "Chapter II" also, that's guaranteed.
FLAUROS ISN'T SEARCHING FOR ANY KIND OF DEALS WITH "THE MYTH..." DEMO, WHY? HAVE YOU GOT ANY PROPOSALS FROM FOREIGN LABELS, FROM SOLISTITIUM RECORDS PERHAPS?
-Well, personally I think that bands should be more critical about what they are doing and with this demo we knew that FLAUROS wasn't ready for anykind of deal. There's so many bands that really doesn't know how to play, they just release something shit and there's always someone who likes their material so much that would like to sign the band. What I am saying here is that these days it's too easy to get a deal. There is too many bands with nothing to show except their image. We know when FLAUROS is ready and it wasn't with the material of this demo. The demo wasn't sent to any labels.
HAVE YOU BEEN FEATURED IN ANY COMPILATIONS YET, ANY COMP.-CDS PERHAPS?
-In a few cassette compilations, but that is it. Some compilation makers have written to have us in CD-compilations, but we ain't going to anywhere if the guy haven't even heard our music! Anyone could appear in such compilations (and usually does). Another thing is that we have no money to be in any CDs. Getting second demo out will be hard enough because of that.
YOUR BIO TELLS THAT YOU HAVE PLAYED SOME GIGS IN JOENSUU-AREA, WHAT WERE THEY LIKE?
-Nothing special really. Just like going to practise. A while ago we were "Return to the North"-tour with another band from Joensuu, DISORDER and those gigs were something that gigs should be like! There were two mixers, one for the stage and one for the audience, a professional guy handling the lights and a photographer. We played in Rovaniemi and Oulu. (Now, when I have a chance, thanks for all metal people in Oulu!). It was fucking great!
ARE YOU INTERESTED IN PLAYING GIGS, WOULD YOU BE READY TO PLAY LIVE ABROAD, AND WHAT IS NEEDED FOR THE GOOD FLAUROS- GIG... DRUNKEN AUDIENCE AND/OR DRUNKEN PLAYERS, MAYBE?
-Hah, both I guess. We could play in abroad. No problem with that.
HOW AND WHEN YOU ENTERED THE UG? DO YOU DARE TO REVEAL WHAT KIND OF MUSIC AND BANDS YOU WERE LISTENING TO BEFORE THE CURRENT FAVES WERE FOUND?
-I entered UG few years back by ordering some demos or something I guess. What was I listening to before...hmmm. I remember DORO, WHITESNAKE, W.A.S.P. and AC/DC. I still listen to AC/DC and W.A.S.P. sometimes... I don't really remember, some heavy stuff I guess. Basicly what my brother listened to back then.
TUNRIDA AND FUNERAL RITES WERE MENTIONED ON YOUR HAILING-LIST, HOW DID YOU FIND THE JAPANESE FUNERAL RITES? I THINK THEY ARE NOT WELL KNOWN IN FINLAND, EVEN IF THEY ARE FEATURED IN THIS ISSUE AS WELL? WHAT IS THE STORY WITH TUNRIDA?
-I wrote to Kentaro (FUNERAL RITES) if he would like to send his demo (Wintermoon) to be reviewed in my first issue of Beherial Baptize and after that we just stayed in contact. I respect their work and Kentaro is an ok guy. With TUNRIDA I interviewed 'em and went to their gig in Savonlinna and after that I visited in Juva. Lots of boozing and that kind of stuff. Now we keep contact weekly. You should check their new demo, Hakonen! It's worth of it!
ARE YOU INTERESTED IN FINNISH BANDS, CAN YOU RECOMMEND ANY "NEW" BANDS AND DO YOU THINK THERE ARE BANDS WHICH SHOULD BE IGNORED, REVEAL THOSE NAMES?
-I can honestly recommend bands like TUNRIDA, BETHEL (Hail to Holm), UNHOLA and CRIMSON MIDWINTER. Yes, there are some, more like individuals than bands that should be ignored. I won't give any names, but of course there is always some assholes...
YOU ARE PUBLISHING BEHERIAL BAPTIZE 'ZINE, WHAT IS IT LIKE AND IS THERE THE 2ND ISSUE COMING? ARE YOU INTERESTED IN BUYING OTHER 'ZINES?
-First Beherial Baptize 'zine is now sold out, but the 2nd is on its way. There'll be something like 15 interviews, lots of reviews and articles. We will make colour covers in it and compilation tape with great, but still quite unknown bands. Zine will be out again in Finnish, anyone interested in it, contact. I buy almost every 'zine I can find.
LIKE MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU ARE ENTERING THE FINNISH ARMY IN THE SUMMER, DOES IT MEAN FLAUROS IS BURIED FOR A YEAR? IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU AND KARTZU GROW UP IN THE ARMY...AND FORGET THE WHOLE BLACK METAL?
-I don't think that band must be buried for a year. I try to be there that six months, which is the minimum and we will practise every time we can. To stay with contact with some penpals can be difficult, because if I have a choice between writing letters and playing with FLAUROS, there's not a question about the answer! I am not sure if there is really a way to suddenly just forget something that is one of the most important things in life. No, FLAUROS will not be buried.
ACCORDING TO THE NEWSPAPERS, JOENSUU SEEMS TO BE THE CENTRE OF FINNISH RACIAL AND NEO-NAZI PROBLEMS... DO YOU AGREE? WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ABOUT THE FOREIGN STUDENTS AND REFUGEES LIVING THERE?
-Well, I think the situation is not how it seems to be. In Joensuu all the fucking kids want to be some kind of skins and when someone, individual, does something editors go insane! "Nazis rule the city" and all that shit. They should not be so excited by some group, when those skins are just individuals in pilot jackets (made in USA) and boots (made in England). If one skin beats someone in one night, I bet two normal youngsters does the very same. How I feel about all kinds of niggers... well, I don't think they belong here.
DEALING WITH THE PREVIOUS QUESTION, WHAT IS THE LIMIT BETWEEN BLACK METAL AND NAZI-MUSIC, CAN THEY BE MIXED?
-No, absolutely not! I think that nazism can't be mixed in black-metal by any way. They are two different things. I got these flyers one day about "black-nazi- metal"-bands from Portugal and another, better yet, from Poland!!! Lyrics in Germany...hah. True Aryans, hah hah!
WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS OF THIS MILLENNIUM AFTER THE ARMY?
-It would be great to release 7"EP after the second demo. Then a promo and after, maybe a real deal. Something like that I suppose...
WHO IS YOUR HERRA JA VAPAHTAJA (Lord and Saviour)?
-My lord and saviour... I don't like to discuss much about my own ideology...it's a world just for me.
ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK, WELL...!?
1: What was actually the thing or song you got hooked about FLAUROS and what do you think is the point of originality in our music?
2: What's the strongest song on the demo?
-(Tommi): I answer those two questions at the same time, because otherwise I would repeat myself... The strongest song on your demo and therefore the song that got me excited by you is, surprise surprise.. "Herra ja Vapahtaja", absolutely! This doesn't mean that the rest are shit, no way, but such lyrics and feeling that the song has, can't be heard too often. What is the point of originality...there isn't any certain thing, the whole demo sounds very fresh and like I said earlier, you don't sound like 95% of others do, you at least try to do something else than just imitate the "grandmasters of hell", and I appreciate bands doing that...and when the result is as good as in your case, what can I say...arvostan!
THANKS FOR THIS INTERVIEW, SEAL THE FILE WITH YOUR FINAL MESSAGES AND WORDS!
-Thanks Hakonen ... this was truly an honour to us. Nothing more to say, except that I am more than glad I sent the demo to you back then! I hail you for support and interest!
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